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Betfair down (and other Betfair moans)

Discussion in 'Betting Talk' started by ONEDUNME, Aug 19, 2012.

  1. Seen

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    Don't know anything about it, Beamer, but if they're restricting people then they are becoming the very same as those companies they once proudly boasted about being different from.

    Greed takes over as usual.
  2. beamer

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    Used it for the first time today with an e/w bet on Elegant Ophelia.

    Backed e/w @ 6.0 ( sp 5/1), with a bf sp 6.84.

    Don't know what the final price was as it's not displayed.

    Took the option as I got 2.25 commi free on the place part as opposed to the final bf sp of 1.9 less commi.

    The fav of the 5.50 Wolver actually went off a better price than the exchange.

    It also appears they are very slow on the suspend button. Not sure if it's intentional, but looks worth looking at.
  3. beamer

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    Fixed odds not available for the last race at Wolver.:shit
  4. ScottyXS

    ScottyXS New Member

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    Down again, what a joke of a site.
  5. ONEDUNME

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    Awful
  6. ONEDUNME

    ONEDUNME Administrator

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    FUCKING USELESS CUNTING BAG OF FUCKING WANKY SHITBAG CUNTS
  7. ONEDUNME

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    Betdaq for me next Saturday whatever the liquidity
  8. ONEDUNME

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    I've said it enough times but that's it now. New Years resolution - Betdaq every possible time from now on
  9. Punter

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    I've had a cracking day over on Betdaq today

    Ely Brown @ 17.5
    Reading @ 60 when 2-1 down
    And my biggest winning odds ever, a whopping 50p on Prize Fighter @ 186!
  10. ONEDUNME

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    Nice one Kop. I only had one more bet after my rant and that was matched on betdaq so I'm definitely going to give it a good run. It means having to make another deposit whereas I already have funds in betfair but they've pushed me too far now.
  11. Punter

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    They cant be going down on a Saturday afternoon ffs.
    I know there's a liquidity thing with Betdaq, but it's not a major problem or a noticeable one unless you're betting hundreds at a time :unsure
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  13. ONEDUNME

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    Well it's taken the best part of a year but it seems that Ladbrokes are finally close to launching their own exchange with will put at least some pressure on Betfair. Presumably, they will use some of their fixed odds market liabilities to boost the money it betfair and thereby improve the liquidity. What worries me is, is that going to drive the prices so that they become just a mirror of Ladbrokes own fixed odds prices?

    Just to clarify, they are to run the exchange on their own site but it will just be Betdaq under a Ladbrokes skin (in the same way that individual bookies often use the same poker interface).

    I'm not sure how much it will threaten betfair but I certainly don't see how it can do any harm - especially if they're going to do something with the commission rates.

    I'd be interesting in hearing thoughts - especially you Seen!
  14. peleus

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    Those maintenance again! I just hope they have the decency to send out a notification email. [​IMG]
  15. Seen

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    I must admit I haven't read up on the intricate details of this.

    It would be great to have some real competition to Betfair at last but I doubt it'll have much effect. The anger generated when the Premium Charge was introduced drove some big hitters away but not enough to make a real difference. It'll all depend on the liquidity I suppose, Betdaq is still pathetic on that score so it remains to be seen how much Lads can improve it.

    What Betfair have done over the years has been nothing short of disgraceful, I'd love to be able to fuck them off and go elsewhere (they're stealing £50 a week from me on top of the £60 I'm already paying in comm), but until there's a viable alternative I'm stuck with them.

    This is well worth a read...

    http://www.bettingexpert.com/blog/ladbrokes-exchange

  16. beamer

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    It could be worth looking at the over nights on the big events with the Daq.

    Standing Ovation last weekend.

    They initially went went a full point bigger than b/f at 3.9/3.95 ( b/f generally 2.54-2.58), who had been cut across the board from 7/4 - 6/4 within half an hour of opening. Rather than cash controlled it appeared to be time controlled, as the market kept getting seeded in 8k chunks, then dropped to a .5pt differential bang on the hour (probably 11pm). Even though there must have been plenty of money being arbed over to b/f, the Daq traded 50% higher than them up until that following morning, when the prices did eventually merge mid morning I think.

    I initially thought it was rick and dived in, but the price was maintained the whole evening. I never even fancied the horse but it was effectively a 50% return on 7/4 shot, win or lose.

    I was away last weekend so don't know if this was reported in any way, but it's possible that it may be repeated. My thought were that they would be going after the trade money, but I really hope it take off.

    The problem is I don't like playing one market with two accounts, as It's likely to feck up.

    The daftest thing was Laddies were the first to cut the price.
  17. Colbro

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    does anyone about the time delays of live tv pictures on other sports.

    I was watching some tennis today and noticed that the betfair stream was about 3-4 seconds ahead of both Eurosports and BT "Live" programmes.

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