English Premier League Betting 10-12 Sept

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10 September 2011
15:00 Arsenal v Swansea 1.29 4.50 8.50
15:00 Everton v Aston Villa 2.00 3.25 3.25
15:00 Man City v Wigan 1.17 6.00 13.00
15:00 Stoke v Liverpool 3.00 3.25 2.10
15:00 Sunderland v Chelsea 5.00 3.40 1.62
15:00 Wolves v Tottenham 2.88 3.20 2.20
17:30 Bolton v Man Utd 7.50 3.75 1.40

11 September 2011
13:30 Norwich v West Brom 2.38 3.20 2.63
16:00 Fulham v Blackburn 1.67 3.40 4.50

12 September 2011
20:00 QPR v Newcastle 2.25 3.25 2.75

Everton started the season woefully and even lucky to avoid losing to Blackburn (dominated by them even) by all accounts so they are way too short. I'll say.. draw there.

Arsenal too short also for me although you'd expect some kind of improvement from them. A game with goals you think?

Mmm... Liverpool have looked a little workmanlike to me so far and Stoke are notoriously hard to beat at home aren't they? Bleh.

Chelsea another side yet to look all that convincing. I saw some of their game against Norwich and to be honest.... they didn't look much better than the newly promoted Canaries to me. Could be a 1X that one perhaps?

Spurs... yet another side to get going and Wolves seem to have tightened up a fair bit and are playing not bad.

Owen Coyle I think likes playing against Man Utd.... I wouldn't be overly confident with predicting that one either. This is helpful. Bolton have looked shit to me though from what I've seen. Awful at Liverpool but apparently pretty good against Man City. Can they avoid defeat? Not a bad home record I think? Maybe.

Listen to you three,Spurs this Spurs that,Spurs players havent met each other yet,ha ha,well I say cobblers to all of that,SPURS WIN

Well, you fellas pretty much seem to be agreeing that there's very little there to whet the appetite.

I think possibly Stoke is the one slightly over priced this week. Sunderland at Anfield, 2nd half, all they did was show a bit more energy and I actually thought they were the better side for long periods. Well worth their point. Liverpool have still to really prove themselves for me and since Kenny took over again, their best performances have been reserved for the big boys. An apparently good win at Arsenal too which looks a lot less impressive now and a win against Bolton who really were monumentally shit.

Not me, basher. All I said was Spurs hadn't got going yet. Argue with that.

Yeah,but I know what you was thinking,you fancy Wolves dont you Mick.
Ere,we played well in the 1st half against united and at times in the second half too.
Against city Genius Harry played without a holding midfielder and got done on the counter attack everytime.oh and to add to that he only played one upfront in both games.
The negatives for Spurs are Van de Vartts out or I would be confident about going there and turning em over.

Van Der Vaart does make "things" happen quite often for Spurs though. My mind was more thinking about how Wolves seem to have cut out a lot of basic errors and are getting points so far that they never would have last season. They're playing the game I would say in a way that's just very simple. Clear the lines, get it out wide, put in crosses, close down. Nothing fancy. Focusing on the basics.

I'd be surprised if they allowed Spurs any space to play.

Arsenal look about the right price to me, perhaps slightly short but nothing to get excited about

IMO the odds against on Everton represents value, although with that being said I couldn't see me backing any lower than the 2.1 about in places, I'd maybe take 2.08...

The Price on Man City looks very low and I have to be a layer at 1.2

Liverpool look far too short for me at that price on the road wont get involved on this.

Chelsea at 1.73 look tempting defenetly a bit of value there

6/4 on Spurs is another which I'm going to be on like a rash, too big should be more like 5/4 surely

Man Utd again look like a value lay on the road, I'm laying at 1.46

The 2.89 on offer for WBA to pick up their first win of the season against Norwich looks like a value pick I make it a back at 2.75+

Fulham look pretty much on the money at that price so not playing in that one

3.1 about Newcastle on Monday I can't get over I was ready to back at prices over 2.4, and was expecting maybe 2.5 at a push but 3.1 is a phenomenal price, and is an over reaction to QPR's signings perhaps that might still be settleing in.

I thought we were mostly all thinking the same, Swoop with a couple of exceptions. So I have to disagree with you there.

Senhor Villas-Boas rather puts me in mind of our late church organist. All the keys were laid out present and correct in front of him, but somehow he never could find the right ones to play at the appropriate moment. Of course, the little bottle he kept hidden under the unsorted jumble in the vestry may have had something to do with that – but there, I mustn’t talk scandal.

One must assume that the young man in question will, in time, find the right keys and indeed play them. He will come to realise that tempo is the answer to the riddle of a well marshalled defence, and so will address the ponderous and – one doesn’t like to appear cruel - but frankly cumbersome nature of his team’s approach play. The enigmatic Senor Mata and, dare one say it, even the sprightly effervescence of young Mr McEachran could well be the means of unravelling this mystery that baffled even the wise old head of Signore Ancelotti last season.

Of course, the question one must ask oneself is whether Senhor Villas-Boas will identify the culprits and make the necessary adjustments at Sunderland this weekend. One feels that he is close to a breakthrough, but that the ultimate solution to the riddle may remain beyond his grasp for a while longer yet. With so little to value in the prices available, I fear the village turf accountant will not be benefitting from any of my modest means this weekend.

Ah here ye all are, thank you Slick & MickeyPaul for leading me to the promised land

Arsenal are nailed on to beat Swansea, they are not as bad as that 8 - 2 hammering, but has anyone watched Swansea? WTF are they doing in the premier league! no doubt but they are going straight back to where they came from- Arsenal to win to nil: 11/10 Boylesports

Everton to beat Aston Villa, Aston Villa are a shit team, did anyone watch them at home against Wolves, they also have a shit manager, how do you get a team relagated and move accross to the rival club? Villa mainstay is the world class Shay Given and 'Irish Minister for Defence' Richard Dunne, both kept the Russians at bay on their own during the week in Moscow and will be in no form for a game Saturday, Given was playing with a back injury and Dunne had 4 stitches to his face after slapping his face off the running track, add to this the tough 90 mins they had and the slap of pints to celebrate afterwards! Everton win: Evs

The other one I like is Stoke, double chance (Stoke or Draw) 4/6 Boylesports

I wouldn't want to have any money on Villa or Everton , I will say that Villa are over priced IMO but have failed to score in 2 out of 3, Everton are worse with 1 goal from a pen with the scorer now with Arsenal, depressing for them .
2/7 for Arsenal isn't terrible I suppose, they will win ok as Swansea are truly out of their depth. I'm gonna stick that in a treble, maybe with manure who are 2/5 at Notlob, that's fair enough as they aint playing all that well IMO. Rooney has been flogged by England too and their's Europe coming up albeit an easy task hmm.